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Ron Bailey at Reason has some thoughts on nationalized healthcare:

Harvard University economist Kenneth Rogoff sees health care expenditures rising to perhaps 30 percent of a country’s GDP over the next 50 years. If the US adopts a nationalized health care system, taxes will have to double for pay for it. Rogoff also observes, “[I]f all countries squeezed profits in the health sector the way Europe and Canada do, there would be much less global innovation in medical technology. Today, the whole world benefits freely from advances in health technology that are driven largely by the allure of the profitable U.S. market. If the United States joins other nations in having more socialized medicine, the current pace of technology improvements might well grind to a halt.”

Which suggests the following thought experiment—what if the United States had nationalized its health care system in 1960? That would be the moral equivalent of freezing (or at least drastically slowing) medical innovation at 1960 levels. The private sector and governments would not now be spending so much more money on health care. There might well have been no organ transplants, no MRIs, no laparoscopic surgery, no cholesterol lowering drugs, hepatitis C vaccine, no in vitro fertilization, no HIV treatments and so forth. Even Canadians and Britons would not be satisfied with receiving the same quality of medical care that they got 45 years ago.

An interesting way to look at it, but I’d also propose another thought experiment: Conceding for the moment that there’s nothing we can do to stem the tide of our high healthcare costs (which I am not convinced of), what if we did nationalize healthcare and did effectively freeze innovation for the time being. Is that as disastrous as it’s made out to be? If we had to choose between mediocre healthcare technology where everyone is guaranteed a base level of service versus newer, fancier and even more incredible healthcare technology for those that can afford it while we still have poor people getting sick and dying, I think I’d choose the former.

Plus I think there’s a convincing argument to be made that the preventative value of a guaranteed base-line of care could cause a drastic decrease in the long-term costs of healthcare in general. Right now we have a healthcare system that by and large treats people that can afford it earliest, and people that can’t afford it when it has become unavoidable – i.e. when they require catastrophic healthcare, which is pretty expensive.


Comments

Nicholas HollandJuly 01, 2005 at 07:03 · reply

How can anyone say when the healthcare is good enough? Freezing in 1960, or in 2005 - how can you justify one over the other without supporting further advancement? If we go back to medicinal ways of the 1800’s, we’d probably save a fortune and everyone could have their own jar of leeches to bleed themselves when they get a cold.

Healthcare costs will continue to rise due to the fact that we’re getting better at saving people from the brink of death. If it took 1 million dollars to save your life, would you pay it? Would you expect your government to pay it? What about 2 million? 10 million?

The problem is, no one will ever put a value on life - and the populous at large will always value life over money. So as soon as a method to save someone’s life is made available, then the cost factor increases because that’s one more method we can and MUST use to save a life.

Socialized medicine is not a simple answer - tough decisions still exist and ultimately the government will draw the line where you are too expensive to keep alive. Remember when I asked how much is your life worth? If it cost 5 million to save your life and you could pay it - would you? Not with a socialized system :) You’d die because the Gov can’t afford the 5 million and they need restrictions on private medicine procedures to make sure the socialized system works (ie: Canada).

Congrats… you’re dead even though you could afford to prevent it.

the ghost of ErikJuly 01, 2005 at 19:21 · reply

Help! I’m dead! Oh, woe is me! I hate being dead! I should never have nationalized health care!

The problem is, no one will ever put a value on life - and the populous at large will always value life over money. So as soon as a method to save someone’s life is made available, then the cost factor increases because that’s one more method we can and MUST use to save a life.

This statement is wrong on many levels. First, we put a value on life every day. That’s what the health care industry, economies, and civilization in general does, day in and day out.

The problem is that you are thinking in terms of critical, catastrophic healthcare which due to the Emergency Medical Treatment and Active Labor Act must be provided. I am talking mainly about preventative care, which by and large is provided on the basis of a market economy augmented by a system of insurance. Under this system, some people get care, and some don’t, and some die as a result.

It’s a very macabre assessment to have to make, but if you think about our health care options as a spectrum, at one end, we can offer very high-quality care to some (even most) that can pay for it, and at the other, we can provide a solid, guaranteed baseline of crappier care for all. This may mean that thousands of potential recipients of expensive procedures may not get them, and as a result die, but it also means that millions may lead healthier and longer lives because they are insulated from illness and death by an arbitrary “floor” of guaranteed healthcare.

History, I think, is rife with examples of amenities once considered a luxury becoming, as technology advances, prevalent and necessary enough to warrant entitlement.

The problem, surely, comes in identifying this “floor” and isolating what qualifies as legitimate, necessary and beneficial (health and cost-wise) preventative health care, as opposed to more frivolous and unnecessary medical procedures – and further, what procedures/care are simply too extravagant/expensive to be provided by this “floor” and must be relegated to the competitive market to allocate those resources. I am not sure I have any answers there..

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