Santorum endorses gay marriage

Thomas Lang, from The American Prospect, attended an event sponsored by the Heritage Foundation where Rick Santorum was delivering a speech and provides his account.

The benefits of marriage, Santorum said, can be demonstrated via empirical evidence. He noted that children living with two parents are less likely to be physically abused and less likely to suffer emotional neglect than those living in other arrangements. He went on to say that children in two-parent families are less likely to drop out of high school and tend to stay away from alcohol, tobacco and illegal drugs.

Lang then posed a question designed to highlight the inherent contradiction in advocating “marriage protection” but simultaneously condemning gay marriage:

“If our answer to single women for financial stability and welfare is to get married, or that marriage will help them out, what do we tell single gay women? Isn’t that kind of painting a bleak future for them?”

This question was brilliantly phrased, intentionally or unintentionally. If he had simply asked “Isn’t it hypocritical to advocate marriage protection but to exclude gay couples?”, Santorum would have immediately had a light bulb moment and been defensive. Instead, the question seemed innocuous enough that Santorum rambled, thinking out loud long enough to stumble into a logical trap of his own making:

Well, what I would say is that marriage is a healthy relationship for a man and woman to be involved in to have children, and that is shown by the evidence. If someone is not involved in a relationship where children are a possibility then the dynamic is completely different. So I would just make the argument that what we’re focused on here in welfare policy – the direct objective here is women with children and how we establish stable relationships so we can nurture children, and, therefore, have a more stable society going forward. And I’m not suggesting that single men – heterosexual, homosexual – [or] single women – heterosexual, homosexual – without children should get married. I mean that’s – if they want to get married, if that’s the time of their life they want to do that, that’s fine. And I’m not suggesting that it’s financially better or worse for them. I’m suggesting that if you have a child, that you have that additional responsibility – and its additional burden. It’s tough; raising children is tough. I’ve got six at home; I can tell you, it’s tough. That having a partner there that’s a nurturer and – that provides the critical role that men and women – and it’s a different role. I can tell you as a father I provide a whole different set of values, if you will, to my children, than my wife does, just from being a man, and she being a woman. So I think that’s important for the nurturing of children, for the stability of them going forward, and that’s why I would suggest that it’s appropriate for them in those cases.

Woops. “that’s fine”? Someone didn’t stick to the script.

Oh, what a tangled web we weave…


Comments

I’m not sure what your point is here. I’m no fan of Santorum or his beliefs, but I think a political environment in which people are ridiculed for thinking when they talk and “not sticking to the script” is toxic.

I’m not ridiculing him for thinking when he talks.

I am pointing out the beauty of what happens when you do.

If it happened more often, we wouldn’t have an administration promoting two policies that are mutually contradictory.

Taken at face value, Santorum’s logical leap is admirable. I don’t find it to be very likely that he’d ever stand behind it, however. That’s something that deserves to be ridiculed.

I don’t think he made the logical leap you’re talking about. “That’s fine” doesn’t always mean “that’s fine;” sometimes it means “that’s not what I’m talking about here,” which, being the entire gist of his response, seems like the right interpretation.

You’re splitting hairs.

If he didn’t make the logical leap, then it’s still funny, because he said it, whether or not he meant it. Rick “marriage is between a man and a woman” Santorum said that homosexual marriage is fine.

If he did make the logical leap, then good for him, and let’s use this as an example for how flawed the stance on gay marriage is. (which was the point of my post to begin with)

Whose side are you on, anyway?

The highlighted phrase isn’t really contradictory, he could mean any number of things. For example, he could be saying “if a homosexual wants to get married” meaning a straight marriage… not that that makes any sense, but it’s often the way conservatives think, in my observation. They feel the lifestyle is something you can just shut off if you really want to. More likely he was referring to straight relationships for straight people and gay relationships for gay people, but that still doesn’t mean he was in conflict, because he said “want”… he doesn’t have any problem with gay people wanting to get married, he has a problem with society allowing them to. This is hypocritical to be sure, but any appeal to logic is superceded by their inherent prejudice against the gay lifestyle. It would be like the man who wanted to marry his dog… the response would be a “no we don’t do that here” kind of thing. It doesn’t matter how compelling the guy’s arguments are that he should be able to marry his dog, it is simply dismissed out of hand because of the prejudice.

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