obamacare and socialism and the end of the world and stuff

Okay obviously my title is facetious in nature. I know everyone’s tired of hearing about this, and we’re all busy furiously unfollowing and defriending people who are either talking about this too much or too little, or in the wrong way. This is me, doing my part to alienate a few more people. I will make this short.

Essentially, I think that the passing of this legislation is good, despite the fact that it’s bolstering a system that is horribly broken. That is: we have a system right now that is horribly ass-backwards (I’ll get to that). Nonetheless, it still manages to provide healthcare for a certain number of people. The subset of people that are not included tend to be in poor health, which is bad for them, but it’s also bad for the economy from a production standpoint, and from a cost standpoint, as well (since we inevitably do have to pay for their health – just usually not until it’s too late.) That is, these people spend their entire lives in poor health, and thus contribute poorly to the economy as a whole, and then society absorbs the cost of trying to keep them alive once it has become Very Expensive. Thus, I agree with the general consensus that subsidizing our (current, broken) system to include these people is still a good idea, for now, because by any objective measure it probably means that it will pay for itself. That may be a rosy scenario, but I’m okay with that. I’d rather run up our deficit by providing healthcare for poor people than by starting wars and stuff. Yes, I’m in the dreaded “something is better than nothing” camp.

As for why it’s broken? It seems simple, to me – and it aggravates me that no one seems to be talking about it: health “care” is different than health “insurance”. Even in casual debate, it’s rare that you hear anyone even bothering to distinguish between the two things. The word “insurance” is used nearly interchangeably with “care” regarding health. Right now our entire system: the “market” (or lack thereof) and the subsidization are built entirely around an insurance model. Insurance models differ significantly from a commodity market in that you pay regularly for something you may never get. You’re hedging against the risk of something catastrophic that you would not be able to afford, should it happen. Insurance markets work great for this sort of thing: car insurance, flood insurance, etc. In the health world, this sort of model has its place as well for catastrophic health care – e.g. getting hit by a bus, falling off a ladder and breaking your leg, and so on.

A commodity market is different, and much simpler. I pay you X dollars for Y product. You’re paying money for a tangible product that you need regularly. Much of modern healthcare falls into this category – it’s a raw, predictable commodity, and yet, we’re applying an insurance model to it. This distorts the market horribly in many ways – namely that we’re (over)paying money regularly for a commodity in terms of insurance rates. And worse, insurance companies (until now) have had the ability to deny certain elements of commoditized care based on arbitrary insurance-market justifications – e.g. pre-existing conditions. This is why I think it’s good that our new legislation bars insurance companies from denying care based on pre-existing conditions, but it just further compounds the surreality of the fact that what these companies are providing is not insurance.

Worst of all, the fact that health care is “insured” means that it removes any incentive for the consumer (the insured) from doing any price-shopping. Because health care is an “insured” thing, the mentality is that you either have it or you don’t. There’s nearly zero incentive for your average consumer to price-shop the cost of drugs, medical procedures, et al. Even purchasing a generic vs. brand drugs is a factor that doesn’t matter at all to the consumer, except occasionally in the form of marginally higher co-pays. Thus you get the silliness of insurance companies spending money to advertise to their own customers to educate them that they should choose generic when possible. The result has far-reaching consequences: consumers (patients) with little to no involvement in their own health matters – preventative or otherwise. Consumers that do little to price-compare for anything, with the expected corresponding result: super-high healthcare costs nationwide.

The conservative/liberal split on this debate fascinates and confounds me. To some extent, I don’t really understand the conservative backlash against this legislation – all it does is subsidize the current broken system. I am not really following how it affects our liberty, or how it’s unconstitutional. As is usually the case when I debate these things with my republican pals, I assume we’d end up after days of debate by arguing about the meaning of the 9th amendment, so let’s just go ahead and jump to that point and agree to disagree. But what is striking to me is that we’re all talking about what the government should and shouldn’t be doing, and not what really needs to change: the market model we’re using to provide healthcare. We need to be treating health care as a commodity and paying the providers directly for it. As for who does it – the government in a “single-payer” model via socialized medicine in some form, or “the market” in a libertarian free-market utopia – I don’t care. It’ll work better either way. Once we start treating certain elements of healthcare as the commodities they really are, market efficiencies will explode, one way or another.

It will mean, though, that some difficult and interesting questions will have to be answered as to what constitutes a commodity. There are some facets of healthcare that are no-brainers: regular checkups, immunizations, the occasional bouts with colds/flu – these are all things that are expected and commonplace. There’s no insurance model needed here. But take cancer, for example. Cancer, by and large, is tragic, no doubt, and I don’t mean to belittle the horrible process of watching someone you love die – usually slowly and painfully. But a curious phenomenon has emerged: as technology and safety have improved, life expectancy has gone up. We no longer die of typhus, or being mangled in a thresher. The leading causes of death for Americans are, in order: heart disease and cancer. That’s how most Americans die. Cancer is tragic, and painful, yes – but if we’re being real with ourselves, it’s not a surprise. It’s essentially one of the mechanisms by which we currently die. In this manner, is it really something that fits or requires an insurance model, as well? We know it’s going to happen, so how is it not a commodity to be purchased (or subsidized by whomever) like anything else?

Food for thought.. the ethical/moral quandaries raised by this sort of stuff are a bit beyond the scope of my point here (consider that any market for healthcare to some extent involves also the negotiation of price, value and the return on investment for average lifespan), but the point is: a lot of healthcare doesn’t need to be insured. It just needs to be paid for. See? Like I said, I’ll keep this short. Ahem. Brevity is the soul of wit. Verbosity is the soul of awesome.


Comments

vinbarnesMarch 22, 2010 at 22:05 · reply

I can only really speak for my case, but I would price shop now (currently I have an HSA + “approved” insurance plan) whereas I did not before (business-supplied health insurance).

Yeah, HSAs are something that I need to read more about, but it sounds based on the name and basic idea alone that it definitely heads things in a more “pay as you go” type direction, which would encourage actual price-shopping..

Glen DeanMarch 23, 2010 at 01:12 · reply

Chris, this is a great post. But I think you assume that your “Republican pals” are happy with the status quo. That’s just not the case.

Kevin Rogers (KLR Photography)March 23, 2010 at 03:25 · reply

Great Post! Of course I am a left wing, Agnostic, Democrat.

Brian D.March 23, 2010 at 14:03 · reply

This is a very lucid diatribe, and for the most part I agree with you (the current system is broken, the true costs are hidden, etc). As a hobby economist, I have to wonder about the bit on denying pre-existing conditions. Insurance companies are in the business of risk. Higher risk ultimately means higher cost, so it makes sense that they would want to reduce risk to make their business viable. Would you give me $50 if I gave you $5? Probably not. The math doesn’t add up. What makes healthcare different is the emotional appeal.

Another thing I wanted to point out is that the cost of the new bill is much less than most conservatives have attempted to paint it. Ezra Klein has a good post on that here: http://voices.washingtonpos…

Insurance markets work great for this sort of thing: car insurance, flood insurance, etc

Insurance markets only work if the ground rules/regulation is in place so that risk pools can be large and sustainable. In the case of healthcare, insurance companies lobbied to have these rules relaxed/removed so that they could arbitrarily subdivide and cherry-pick, focusing nearly all of their attention on selling cheap insurance to people who don’t actually need it. Also, you do realize that health insurance companies are granted an anti-trust exemption; being allowed to collude and fix prices. So even as an insurance market, the insurance market never really functioned as a free market anyway.

it removes any incentive for the consumer (the insured) from doing any price-shopping

when you’re bleeding to death on an emergency room floor, you are not in a position to do any price shopping. when the prices that are actually listed at hospitals/clinics/etc are completely different (and insane) as compared with the negotiated rates that are actually paid depending on which health plan you’re on, there’s no way for Joe Random Consumer to be able to evaluate the deal he’s getting from a particular hospital. Similarly one is in very little position to evaluate competing health plans because, again, you don’t know all of the various arrangements the health-plan people have made with all of the various service providers. Never mind that your health plan administrator is going to be making lots of decisions concerning what will and will not be covered on a case by case basis and you can’t possibly know in advance how those are going to work out. It’s just one big incestuous mess. And this isn’t a function of it being insurance vs. non-insurance. It’s a function of individual needs being drastically different; if I’m diabetic or missing a kidney or suffering from multiple sclerosis, there is no private free-market scheme that won’t involve me paying more for healthcare than the completely healthy person hospitals/etc having to treat people regardless of ability to pay, our societal norms not really allowing any alternative; in order to survive as private entities, they have to find ways to charge the shit out of those who can pay, except that it has to be those not already protected by the various insurance/health-provider regimes.In short there simply isn’t any way out of this box that doesn’t involve government regulation

Kate O'NeillMarch 24, 2010 at 03:33 · reply

I know you want comments on your blog, so: here.

This was really well written. I think I’ve occasionally conflated health care and health insurance, but possibly a little less so than many folks I’ve chatted with about any of this since I have such an optimal-health-oriented mindset and lifestyle (in many though certainly not all ways) and I think that helps me distinguish which is which more intuitively. But your clarification will help more.

And for what it’s worth, as someone who has watched a loved one die slowly and painfully from cancer, I still agree with what you say about it, and that thought occurred to me several times throughout my dad’s deterioration: we’re all pretty much at risk of some kind of cancer or other, if heart disease doesn’t get us first, because of a combination of not only as you say improved technology and safety that makes other untimely deaths less likely, but also arguably dietary, environmental, and behavioral risk factors for cancer that all add up to what seems less like a crapshoot and more like a ticking time bomb. In other words, not so much if as when.

Also, “verbosity is the soul of awesome” may be my new favorite phrase.

People reading this should be aware that you stole all the ideas in it from ME. Then again, you stated them a lot more lucidly than I ever managed. So, um, yeah.

when you’re bleeding to death on an emergency room floor, you are not in a position to do any price shopping

Well, I think this is kindof my point – if you’re on an emergency (key word) room floor, bleeding, you’re probably necessarily in an unexpected turn of events that would actually be well-suited to an insurance model of things.

And this isn’t a function of it being insurance vs. non-insurance. It’s a function of individual needs being drastically different; if I’m diabetic or missing a kidney or suffering from multiple sclerosis, there is no private free-market scheme that won’t involve me paying more for healthcare than the completely healthy person hospitals/etc having to treat people regardless of ability to pay, our societal norms not really allowing any alternative; in order to survive as private entities, they have to find ways to charge the shit out of those who can pay, except that it has to be those not already protected by the various insurance/health-provider regimes.

Well, I don’t agree with your conclusion here, entirely – but you’ve tapped into an interesting facet of things. That is, the fact that health care market really is, unfortunately, the mechanism by which we decide who gets to live, and for how long. Shit gets really complicated here, but we all know that humans have evolved to where we are now thanks in no small part to our ability to recognize the evolutionary advantages in mutual reciprocity.. That is, we realize it’s worth it for our society to “subsidize” the health of those that are disadvantaged for whatever reason, because it pays dividends for our species. How we decide to subsidize that portion of things is tough, but I don’t think I agree that insurance is the right answer – it still doesn’t change the fact that it’s a raw commodity. Someone with diabetes or MS has specific, relatively predictable costs. Even if you average out things for an erratic disease, we can subsidize that in smarter ways. It doesn’t mean that an insurance model is the answer for everything.

yeah, I’m glad you feel that way, because I actually thought of you and your father when I wrote that bit about cancer.. But interestingly, a friend of mine pointed out (and I agree) that I made an error here.. Although cancer and heart disease are the leading causes of death, *most* americans still die of the other myriad different ways we can die.. But that doesn’t detract from my main point, which is that regardless of the “how”, death itself is still a predictable thing that happens. But with things like cancer, the cost involved in treating it really boils down to (unfortunately) “how long do you want to live”.

It’s a terrible thing, and as a friend of mine said recently “Fuck cancer”, but alas, it’s a real thing we have to deal with more and more.

mothwentbadMarch 24, 2010 at 07:47 · reply

I guess it seems kind of semantic to me whether you call it “insurance” or not. If you call it “insurance” but it’s not really insurance, then what does that matter?

Anyway… I don’t know, if you’re poor, and you have a pre-existing condition, do we just say that you’re fucked? There is a point at which you expect on average to be 8 times as sick as you can afford to pay for, and you’re no longer just planning for random disasters anymore. That’s sort of where I want to see socialism kick in, since it’s kind of insane to expect for-profit insurance companies to keep you alive on their tab just for the lulz.

Matt HelmMarch 24, 2010 at 12:58 · reply

// As for who does it — the government in a “single-payer” model via socialized medicine in some form, or “the market” in a libertarian free-market utopia — I don’t care. //

If I’m going to be paying your medical bills via taxation, then I most certainly care. Either never smoke, eat the diet I do, exercise as much as I do, get lucky enough to have my genetics and therefore incur as little in costs as I do, or you pay more via taxation than I do. Or, is your actual goal outright income redistribution? If so, then at least be honest enough and say that you want someone else to pull the cart that you’re riding in.

Do I have to read as poorly as you, too?

sarcastroMarch 24, 2010 at 15:04 · reply

Me like. Me no like government, insurance companies or the medical-pharma industrial complex. Me really no like sticking the kids with a trillion dollar bar tab for this party. It would be cheaper and more efficient to just humanely euthanize the elderly and the incurably sick.

Chris:

In case you haven’t seen it, my response is here.

roflwaffleMarch 31, 2010 at 07:20 · reply

What do you mean (quantitatively) by “tend to” in terms of the subset of people who aren’t covered?

Leann LewisJune 28, 2012 at 16:26 · reply

Much of modern healthcare falls into this category – it’s a raw, predictable commodity, and yet, we’re applying an insurance model to it.

Healthcare prices in the US are not predictable. In my opinion, the fact that healthcare does not come with a predictable priceis part of the reason why the US has the highest healthcare costs in the world.  You can probably call your PCP and ask how much it’d cost for an office visit and they’ll have an answer for you that will include the caveat “unless we need to do tests, then it will be more”, but you can’t call Vanderbilt and ask them how much it will cost to treat colon cancer or chronic diabetes or heart disease.  Granted, the PCP office visits likely amount to a large percentage of healthcare visits, but the more expensive stuff like cancer and chronic conditions, equate to a larger percentage of healthcare spend.I’d like to backup what Vinbarnes says about HSAs.  I had an HSA in the past and paid much more attention to when and why I had medical treatment.  I think it’s kind of funny that I work for an insurance company and they DON’T offer an HSA (and, people, please don’t jump all over me for where I work - I’m in the work comp division and have nothing to do with the insurance side)

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