science is not religion

I thought I could let this go. I thought I could just make my snide comment and move on, but I can’t. The context is an excerpt of Pat Buchanan that Blake posted:

Clearly, a continued belief in the absolute truth of Darwinist evolution is but an act of faith that fulfills a psychological need of folks who have rejected God. That picture on the wall of the science class of apes on four legs, then apes on two legs, then homo erectus walking upright is as much an expression of faith as the picture of Adam and Eve and the serpent in the Garden of Eden.

Hence, if religion cannot prove its claim and Darwinists can’t prove their claims, we must fall back upon reason, which some of us believe is God’s gift to mankind.

Now, I don’t know if Buchanan here is referring to “reason” as in the Platonic ideal of Reason as something separate from empiricism (and science), or if he’s really genuinely just babbling without knowing what he’s saying, but either way, he makes no sense.

There’s a ridiculous but pervasive argument I am hearing often from a lot of religious people that science requires just as much “faith” as religion does. This is wrong. And I don’t mean “wrong” as in “science doesn’t necessarily require faith”. I mean that it’s wrong to even imply that anyone who has any semblance of an idea how science works takes anything on faith alone.

I think the root of the fallacy can be found in two primary problems:

  1. Willfull (or genuine) ignorance, and
  2. The ambiguity of the English language

For example, take the sentence “I believe in evolution” or the sentence “I have faith in evolution.” The words “faith” and “believe” in this context are surrogates for “have confidence”. They are not reflections of a rejection of empirical evidence or the scientific method. The meaning here is distinctly and crucially separate from the idea of “faith” in a religious context. For example, the M-W definition of “faith” in Judeo-Christian theology holds faith as “the belief in the historic truthfulness of the Scripture narrative, and the supernatural origin of its teachings, sometimes called historical and speculative faith.” Note the key word here: speculative faith.

A crucial element and indeed the entire point of many religions is the affirmation of “faith” in a God, supreme being or ideal. Faith even in the absence of empirical evidence – even in the face of contradictory evidence. Hence, we have the idea of “testing” one’s faith as a recurring theme in many religions. So it strikes me as odd then that any person that took their religion seriously would want to compare it to science, or vice versa. Is it an attempt to bring science down to religion’s level – i.e. “you fancy-pants scientists think you’re so great but you believe in crap just like us!”? Or is it an attempt to validate the ideas of religion by attaching it to the empirical authority of science?

I have no idea what the motivation is, but it strikes me as odd. Isn’t the whole point of religion that it requires faith in things not evident in scientific analysis? Isn’t that why we have two separate words “science” and “religion” – “empiricism” and “faith”? There’s no inherent attack on religion in making this distinction. It’s just basic semantics. They’re called by different words because they are different things. Religion is not science. Science is not faith. Sorry.

As a scientist, I don’t want the idea of science sullied by the implications of blind faith. Conversely, I would imagine that anyone that took their religion seriously would not want it sullied by stooping to legitimize it with comparisons to science. But maybe that’s not the point. Maybe the problem is that people really just genuinely fail to understand science as a process independent of any belief system.


Comments

Well, Buchanan is saying something pretty sneaky here, that being: “belief in the absolute truth”. Belief in absolute truth is essentially non-empirical. Empiricism rejects absolute truth. Empiricism is concerned with the “little t” truths; those which are temporal and contextual. So basically Buchanan is attributing something to adherents of evolution that is just flat out false. Any statement of “belief” (here comes that semantic sticky wicket you pointed out earlier) or perhaps less confusingly “adherence” within the framework of science always implies “until a better explanation comes along”. Not accepting ID as an acceptable explanation has nothing to do with some sort of faithful belief in evolution, but in the fact it isn’t a very good explanation and certainly not better than the system it is trying replace.

Doug OrleansDecember 20, 2005 at 18:58 · reply

Yeah, people don’t understand science. It’s not taught very well in school. (That is, they teach the results of science, but they don’t teach much about the scientific method itself.)

I saw a quote in someone’s .sig recently: “If atheism is a religion, then not collecting stamps is a hobby.” Not sure if I totally agree (depends on the definitions, as usual), but it’s kinda funny.

Christopher OwensDecember 20, 2005 at 21:57 · reply

Yeah, I don’t have a belief in the “absolute truth” of Darwinian evolution. _The Origin of Species_ was written in the 1850s, and since then details of the theory of evolution have been theorized, rejected, tested experimentally, researched historically, analyzed, changed and refined.

There are errors in Darwin’s original work. One that springs immediately to mind is that in the original edition, Darwin apparently believes that real-world learning by organisms can be inherited by their descendents. This is, now, widely accepted as false (although you can probably search Google for “nematode learning experiment” to get some contemporary work).

Now that’s science.

That said, I have run across people who seem to have an unshakable belief, not in the scientific method, but seemingly in the “absolute falsehood” (if you will) of biblical creationism. Without a correct understanding of science, they assert that evolution and cosmology as currently written in their textbooks or pop-science reading list selections, is absolutely true.

I have a real problem with these people, and they’re clearly not doing the fight against teaching creationism in schools a bit of good.

R. Francis SmithDecember 21, 2005 at 22:15 · reply

In particular, what Mr. Owens describes is odd because creationism is by its nature not falsifiable – that is, I tell you “God made the world as it is” and you can say “okay” or “nuh uh” but really the conversation stops there, as I don’t have a way to prove it to you on hand and you have no way to establish that it didn’t happen, as I can answer “well God made it that way” to anything you say.

Of course, that’s exactly why it’s not a scientific theory, also. If it’s not falsifiable, then it ain’t science; philosophy, sure, religion, obviously, but of no use to the scientific method.

-R (the crazy creationist)

why can’t both be true? i’ve been saying for years that it’s entirely possible that adam was an ape. we don’t know that he wasn’t. the two options do not have to be mutually exclusive, and they’re very hard to debate against each other, especially in a format like this.

having said that, there are plenty of logical (not THEOlogical) arguments that can be made for creationism that DO NOT require that both parties believe in God. i’d love to list them, but it’s not my blog and, frankly, i’m a little rusty on them since it’s been almost a damn decade since a took a thelogy class.

Hi Newton, as the author of “Adam Was An Ape”, I am delighted at your remarks.You see, between Religion and Science is the Equator of science and religion hidden away at the very origin and common stem of both.It is readily understandable why many would find religion and science irreconcilable.Thanks for seeing beyond the visible.God is the Equator of All in all.

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