Primer

Amanda and I watched Primer last night. I didn’t hate it, but I didn’t really like it, for many of the same reasons I didn’t like Donnie Darko. Spoilers below:

This movie starts off well – it really draws you in to what these guys are trying to build, and seems like the perfect setup for a unique sci-fi movie. Once you realize it’s a time-travel movie things start getting interesting – and complicated. Fast. It’s really hard to follow the plot – hard enough that you give up eventually and assume it’s sortof a Memento-like plot, where nothing makes much sense, until it all crystalizes at the end in an elegantly and perfectly delivered ending.

However, that never happens. All you get is a big fat “The End”.

The first comment on IMDB gives you an idea of what kind of movie this is. You have to watch it once, go “What?” and then go spend 2 hours reading on internet forums. Then watch it again. Then read some more. Then watch it 12 more times. And then you’ll eventually come to your own conclusion about what happened, that differs from the conclusion other people arrived at, at which point you can argue about it endlessly on some dude’s blog.

This is a 90 minute movie. I have, roughly, 90 minutes to invest in it. I don’t really have time to watch a 90-minute movie 10 times just to understand what the hell it was about. I also think it’s a cop-out on the part of the movie-makers. Movies are a medium in which telling a cohesive story is very difficult, and it seems like in movies like this, instead of doing that, they just toss out a bunch of random shit and never tie it together in the name of “mystery” and “letting the viewer interpret it”.

And that’s fine. If you’re into that sort of thing, this movie is perfect for you. But I am not.


Comments

You’re completely missing the point. See, actually “The End” is the beginning, only it’s the beginning the second time around. They have to go back to the beginning to reach the end. It’s so obvious.

… Uh, wait, I mean, what? Oh, I liked the movie. But then I’m not that interested in plot, so I probably liked it just on style, and because it was the most realistic depiction I’ve seen on screen of how engineers talk. (Or, as one of Netflix’s customer-reviewers put it: “How much can one take of a couple of weakling pencil-neck tech nerds’ incessant incoherent babbling?”)

I saw it once in the theater, and it’s somewhere near the top of my Netflix queue to watch again. Maybe I’ll understand it better this time–that would be okay.

I did really like the style, and yeah, the dialogue and acting was pretty great..

I think that’s partially why I was so let down by the plot

Plus they made it for $7,000. When “low budget” now means “less than 1 million dollars” that is pretty damn impressive. And although I have issues with the plot, it also showed that a good story (or at least an intriguing story)can be more entertaining than $100 millon of special effects.

I haven’t seen this film, but I really don’t like the attitude that says “I’M BUSY I DON’T HAVE TIME TO THINK ABOUT THIS MOVIE I’VE GOT MORE IMPORTANT THINGS TO DO.” I personally like challenging films that demand activity on my part – whether that’s attentiveness or re-watching, whatever.

I’m reminded of a “friend” of mine from grad school (okay, it was really the annoying girlfriend of a friend) who would belligerently say “I’ve got to think enough in my daily life, when I watch a movie I don’t want anything tough to understand or depressing or whatever.”

You’re not her, obviously. But if you are, you should probably tell Amanda about your vagina.

Here’s a litmus test: Have you guys seen Kiarostami’s Taste of Cherry? Kiarostami says he loves that people fall asleep and hate this movie of his, and I think it’s brilliant.

Hi, I went off topic.

It’s not that I hate movies that are challenging.. Hell, 1900 is one of my favorite movies, and it’s a 3+ hour chore.. If I could find the 5 hour version I’d watch that too.

But I feel like it’s worth it – there is an overarching epic of a story being told, and Bertolucci is an amazing director that I think put together a really fantastic movie to tell it.

I don’t feel like there’d be much of a payout for all the work it would take to try to figure out this movie. I don’t think any work went into the plot of this movie. I think the whole scattered, confusing plot is a cop-out and an excuse to not have to work hard to tell an interesting or clever story.

All I am saying is, if you’re into the puzzle-as-a-movie thing, that’s fine, I’m just not.

I think to some extent, part of my dismay with movies like these might be because I think they set up a misleading expectation – or at least my expectations are colored by movies they remind me of, like Memento or the Usual Suspects, where there are all these pieces scattered through in the movie, but by the end they are woven together in a really fantastic bit of writing.

With this movie, through the whole thing, I thought that’s what was happening. It was confusing, but it would all come together at the end in some cool revelation.. “Any minute now. Aaaaaany minute now. Okay, aaaaaany second now. What? The End? AUGH.”

P.S. The Usual Suspects is dumb. “OMG It Was All A Dream!”

Hey check this out.

Jesus. That’s incredible. and also a good example of how I am either too dumb or too busy to enjoy a movie like this

Yeah, I mean, I did enjoy it, and now I still think I’m too dumb to enjoy it.

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