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Chris,

Running the IP Address through arin.net notes that it belongs to AOL. My guess is that the Kerry campaign probably has nothing to do with this and its just someone doing it on their own. I would contact AOL ([email protected]) and go from there.

Manish

My guess is that the Kerry campaign probably has nothing to do with this and its just someone doing it on their own.

While I have no doubt that John Kerry himself and his campaign organizers didn’t get together to spam me, it’s obvious that someone involved with the site did.

I understand that it’s very likely some retard intern on the campaign that thought it was a good idea, but johnkerry.com should still be held responsible so that they find him, and make him stop.

It’s not like it’s some spammer maliciously spamming me with their site. Spammers are a dirty bunch, but even they are not so big on advertising other people’s sites, in my experience.

There is another possibility, of course - someone could be “Joe Jobbing” the campaign. Trying to set up the Kerry campaign to LOOK like spammers.

I’m not sure which one I believe - I’ve written to to info@ and webmaster@ too asking the question, but haven’t heard anything back. I’d say both possibilities are equally likely at this point. In digging through my logs a bit more, I’ve found other StarProse referral spam, all from Democratic candidates. When campaigns as diverse as Kerry, Edwards, and Al Sharpton are showing up with the same software and the same general layout, it raises my suspicions a bit more for the Joe-Job.

Interesting.. I haven’t seen it from anyone else. It wouldn’t surprise me if you were right, though.

Chris,

Thanks for your rudeness. I didn’t realize who was running this web site. You are definitley not a participant in free speech. I was defending what I know.

Neo-Nazi shithead, you called me!! I don’t think so. I am a Jew, living in Germany.

You are the ignorant one!

Thanks.

I am closing the comments on this thread because the conversation is no longer productive (if it ever was). I am generally not the type to stifle debate, but frankly, I’m tired of getting e-mail about the most recent inflammatory, ignorant and racist comment and its exasperated response.

And since this is my website, I get the luxury of having the last word.

I’d recommend that Johan go and read the wikipedia entry on Race again, since he clearly has no idea what it is (hint: a social construct).

I’d advise both Inga and Johan to either re-evaluate their racist philosophies or at least start trying not to sound like such creepy Neo-Nazi shitheads.

Good day!

Chris:

I just wanted to say that I completely disagree with everything you just said.

(If anyone would like to contact me, and discuss this, I have set up an account at:

[email protected])

Chris is obviously wanting to shut the door and ignore. I get the sense that Chris is racist himself. (anyone is capable of being a racist). His views are totally one-sided.

Your assumption Chris was extremely ignorant.

Inga

Chris, why did you close the debate?? I’ll agree that there were some extreme views, but I would have liked to answer some of the questions that f.ex. Inga asked me. A debate without any controversy makes no sense, political correcness suffocates free speech. Anyone interested in contact may write to [email protected]

I’ve had a chance to read the site re: Black/White issues, and I would say that it’s all about Chris/Jessica. No freedom of speech there man!!

Well Chris you have not answered. Very very rude and ignorant indeed. I guess you think you are the chief, closing the door on free speech. I guess this was an American experience. Once again, the European view of America is correct.

I have been staying in Canada for a few months, and I must say that it is the most wonderful country in the world. Now I must return to Germany, and continue my good life. I want to add that there is far more freedom of speech in Germany than America.

Have a good life! Maybe what you called me should apply to yourself, what do you think?

From a Jew (thanks for calling me a Neo-Nazi Shithead - obiviously you don’t know the meaning of Nazi

Hey Man,

This guy Chris doesn’t have the guts to open the door.

Since when is a blog a public forum protected by free speech?

Amanda,

Please clarify.

I’d advise both Inga and Johan to either re-evaluate their racist philosophies or at least start trying not to sound like such creepy Neo-Nazi shitheads.

( Since you are an authority on things that sound “creepy”…)

The idea was mentioned in the discussion that all of authentic history ( and science) is nothing but a big conspiracy against blacks.

In what ways could that be “creepy”?

Chris,

Why don’t you reopen the forum? You don’t like people speaking honestly man?

I’d recommend that Johan go and read the wikipedia entry on Race again, since he clearly has no idea what it is (hint: a social construct).

Chris:

Wikipedia acknowledges that there is disagreement about the definition of race, and does not pretend to have the whole truth.

It is also editable.

…which means it cannot be used as some sort of canonical reference.

Of course, there is no such thing as holy canon in science - else people wouldn’t need updated textbooks, reflecting new studies such as this (click here).

Absolutely Johan,

Race is definitely genetic. I’d recommend that Chris the man read about Race. He’s a man of few words.

He’s definitely not a believer in free speech. No guts man. He hasn’t got the courage to get into a good discussion.

If we were to close that door on any discussions involving the KKK or Hitler, we’d be in huge trouble. Things are better discussed in the open.

See ya man,

Marc:

The discussion was about Beethoven’s race.

It was not about the KKK or Hitler.

But the Afrocentrists kept trying to control the discussion with their racist views.

They didn’t seem to care that there was a European historian present, who could have answered questions about Beethoven.

When they didn’t succeed in manipulating the discussion, they tried intimidation and accusation.

That didn’t work either (it backfired. Apparently, they are used to people in America just giving in to them, over such behavior).

So they apparently emailed Chris… who got out of trouble with their Excellencies by closing the discussion, and then comparing Inga and myself to “Neo-Nazis” (which perhaps doesn’t deserve comment).

It is interesting, how politics won’t work, without fear.

Science, of course, has no use for it.

“Nothing is to be feared, only to be understood”.

–Marie Currie

“All fear is bad”

–Bertrand Russel

Whoa!!!!! Man, this Chris dude is a racist!! I read through the articles re: Beethoven. Where does he get off man, calling people Neo Nazi SH–heads! You are correct Johan, the comments on that site are full of Afrocentrists!!!

I think he owed someone an apology, and he wasn’t given it man!! Too bad for him.

I can’t take Chris seriously.

Where were his abilities at discovering “inflammatory, ignorant and racist comment”, when Afrocentrists were making accusations against “whites” (e.g. history being a lie invented by whites, whites guilty of stealing “black inventions”, etc.), throughout the discussion?

He sees our comments man, but has no backbone. The reality is that he’s IGNORANT!!

To step into a debate and throw his weight around like he’s the BIG MAN. Some people that were on that site, couldn’t back up anything that they said. They were really pathetic man, with the statments about history being invented by whites, and stealing black inventions. OH PLEEEASE!!!

He should open up the site once again, and stay out of the debate unless he’s got something useful to contribute.

See ya man,

What Chris did was fine.

There were Europeans present in the discussion. One of them was a historian.

Notice the conduct of the Americans - especially the Afrocentrists - in the discussion. They aren’t even prepared to ask a single question, but were lecturing Europeans about European history.

…and freely accusing people of being Nazis, etc. - as if that is normal.

Not to mention the lies about black people having naturally straight hair, etc.

Chris maligned people for mentioning the existance of race - after starting a discussion about Beethoven’s race.

…and looked the other way, when the Afrocentrists did the same.

The Afrocentrists were accountable to no one (with Chris’ blessings) - but everyone was supposed to be accountable to them.

Europeans who saw the discussion, learned something.

I think that was fine.

Hey Johan,

I read over that other site, and I didn’t see this the first time that there was apparently a Schubert descendent on site. Like get real MAN! That group of WHATEVER were total liars. Schubert never had any children himself.

WOW! What a load of you know what man!! TOTALLY AFROCENTRIC MAN!!